73: Private Coaching vs Group Coaching

So you’re ready to finally hire a business coach, but which is better: private coaching or group coaching?

In this episode of The Pursuit of Badasserie: The Podcast, we are tackling our own industry (as well as coaching in general) and clarifying the differences between group and private coaching and consulting.

If you are a business owner or entrepreneur who is considering hiring a business coach or consultant, then you NEED to listen to this episode!

Let’s get after it.

business coaching, group vs private

In this episode, we discuss:

  • The difference between coaching and consulting
  • Lynn & Amanda’s history of hiring coaches and being coaches
  • Understanding which one, coaching or consulting, would benefit you more
  • Resistance to doing the work or the program
  • Our episode with Steve Sims
  • The pros of private coaching
  • One-on-one attention and focus
  • Getting to the big picture
  • Client confidentiality
  • One-on-one flexibility
  • One-on-one coaching cons
  • Pricing objections and concerns
  • The price of the investment
  • ROI, what does that mean from a non-monetary perspective?
  • Hiring the right person
  • The isolation or limited perspective within private coaching
  • Understanding how long you will need a coach and for what purpose
  • Coaching outside of business coaching
  • Group coaching pros
  • The energy of a group and collaboration
  • Finding your support system as an entrepreneur
  • Fresh perspectives and solutions
  • Cons of group coaching
  • The “hot seat”
  • Seeing your goals in a different light
  • Indirect manifestation
  • How to choose the right program for you

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Amanda Furgiuele  

I have done where they bring you in and they really do want you to do all the work. So like you come in and you are doing 100% of the work and you’re getting paid to do the work.

So a lot of times you’ll see companies bringing somebody to do the hiring and firing and to like check productivity and they come in and they talk, they interview all the employees and they talk to all the managers and then they make the decisions about who stays and who goes or how they restructure things.

So in those cases it’s a different type of, that’s not really coaching consulting, that’s really just more a consultant coming in and doing the work.

So there are instances where that is a thing as well.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

So it’s a very large range of options. Yeah, both of us do that, especially for our bigger clients. Yeah.

Amanda Furgiuele  

It’s really fun.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

It is fun. I do love that. And there’s a, we can do a whole other episode on that. Let’s get down to the solo versus group though.

So now that we have some kind of like understanding of the difference. between coaching consulting and like what your part is in it.

Let’s go ahead and get down to let’s you solo pros first.

Amanda Furgiuele  

So obviously the number one pro about solo is that it’s all about you. Any issue you’re having, it’s the actual problems that you’re having and they really get to break down.

What is it that’s working and what’s not working in your systems and processes in your, know, this, everything, every part of your sales process, every part of your funnels, everything that goes down in your company you can talk to and really refine very specifically.

And as problems arise, you really do get that one-on-one attention. This is happening right now. Let’s fix it. And that is something you can’t get in any group scenario because it’s that one-on-one attention is.

It’s exactly what it is. It’s all you. So when you’re in that consult call or when they’re talking with you, like it is 100% about your issues and your problems.

it is very tailored to what challenges you’re facing with.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

in your business? No, absolutely. agree. And I would say, by the way, there are many types of coaches and consultants.

So it could be live, could be spiritual, could be whatever. We tend to be primarily business. that’s why Amanda’s using that as an example.

that, so I love, yes, personalized attention and that deep dive into and the nitty gritties. And it allows for that depth of exploration for even the cause and effect.

So the bigger picture, I feel like with solo or individualized training or coaching, excuse me, coaching or consulting is it’s like, you guys end up getting to the bigger picture as well and the nitty gritty.

So it’s just like, it’s kind of the whole roadmap versus like, just little bits and pieces here and there.

And we’ll talk about the group side here in a second. But yeah, I would definitely say that. I’d also say with solo is obviously the confidentiality because it’s just you and your coach consultant.

We’ll call them a coach for now, but it’s just you and the coach, right? So that confidentiality is like especially for those that have some really that maybe have some internal things.

And I’ve dealt with a few clients over the years that have a really hard time. My business partner can too.

That’s very private at times, right? very like doesn’t want to let things out there. So and I’ve had some clients who are just like, you know, either it’s trade secrets or it’s personal that they’re just very protective and very secretive and or maybe just a sensitivity but or not.

Maybe you don’t have any of those but you want that freedom of that safe confidential space. And I believe that, you know, obviously with the individualized, that forg you that ability that I can say in that container if you would.

Amanda Furgiuele  

Yes, confidentiality is a big thing. And that could be industry specific. some industries are much more concerned about the confidentiality than others.

And like you said, tracycrets are always the thing. It’s you can’t beat the private personalized confidential experience you have with a one-on-one.

Coaching a coaching contract. So that’s for sure one of the top thing or the top things about it. Now, obviously there’s cons to everything.

So the biggest con.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Oh, wait, one more pro.

Amanda Furgiuele  

Here, have one more pro.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Is that it’s also a bit more flexible because it is just you and the coach. So you have. a bit more flexibility, but also, and Amanda, I’d love to hear what you think about this.

I feel, even though we personally are really good in group settings as well, to hold the accountability, but in one-on-one or solo or small, like it might be you and your business partner or something that could be considered as solo business consulting coaching, the accountability is so much higher because you have nowhere to hide.

It’s your coach. I think that we need to throw that in there as well. I love that part because actually a lot of people hire me one-on-one for a few different reasons, but one of the highest reasons why people love working with me one-on-one is that no nonsense raw accountability.

Amanda Furgiuele  

Oh yeah, there’s definitely, and actually I feel like it’s one of the first things I talk about when very first consult call with someone after they’ve hired me.

I’m like, let me just break this down now. I’m not going to be nice to you. I’m but I’m going to hold you accountable for everything.

I’m not going to sugarcoat stuff. There’s no there’s not going to be any flop stuff. But that’s just both of our personalities.

We’re very much like that. However, 100% if you miss a call, I’m going to notice right away. There’s no, I’m going to call you right away.

If you miss the call, like there’s no escaping it. Whereas if you’re in a really large group scenario or some like large coaching program where there’s hundreds of thousands of people in the same program at the same time, you can definitely slip under the radar.

Nobody really knows. And it’s all personal accountability, which is important too, because even in a personal one on one arrangement, you still have personal accountability, still have stuff you have to do.

But when the coach calls you and is literally saying W2F, where were you today? It’s pretty hard to have any other excuse because they know there’s just no cheating.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Yeah. No, no. Okay. Now go to the cons.

Amanda Furgiuele  

I had to. And actually it’s not really been conned for me, but I know it’s one of the number one objections I think we here was the cost.

A one-on-one consulting is going to cost more than a group because it’s one-on-one. You’re getting 100% of their attention, 100% of their time, 100% of their resources.

So I think that’s, but for me, because of what you get, because of the positive sides of it, when I hire a coach one-on-one, I don’t have a problem paying the price because I know it’s worth that price.

And those are the results I expect to get out of it. it’s X amount of dollars, I expect to get X amount of ROI because of what they’re promising and what I’ve signed up for.

So that’s my side of it. But that’s one of the number one things you hear is that it’s a large investment.

And you have to decide how bothersome is your problem that you’re hiring the coach for to fix and how much is that going to cost you and the total around.

The other one that I think is a con for it. is that there really aren’t any cons. I don’t think there’s any cons to having one on one.

Well, I think if you if you clash with your coach, there’s no one else to go to. So if you if you’ve hired a one on one and you thought it was the right fit and then a month into it, you don’t feel like you’re the right fit.

I think that can be a challenge or if it wasn’t what you expected, like you mentioned earlier, like it just didn’t meet this expectation you had.

That can be rough because there’s no one else to reach out to. There’s no additional coach or group or project leader.

It’s just you and that one person. So if there’s any, if you don’t like the things we say, that’s tough and that’s really hard to hear sometimes.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

You don’t throw a fit.

Amanda Furgiuele  

Like, yeah, you get what you get. You don’t throw a fit.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

I would say at the end, let’s come back to like how to hire the right person because I think that that’s a great point but let’s come back to that.

I want to touch on the two points that you said is one with. costs absolutely. So the coach is going to be more expensive.

And I do want to make a comment and Amanda is our money person out of the two of us.

So of course she’s like, I’m going to get the return on investment in money. But here’s the thing. Coaching isn’t always about return on investment and money.

However, it is what you’re going to get. And actually a coach consultant cannot promise you the amount that you’re going to receive unless they are fully doing it themselves.

And still, they cannot 100% that. And so I’ve had this conversation with people a few times and they’ll ask me, you know, more than a few, it feels like I would say about a fourth of the people that prospects that I interview.

And they ask about the ROI and how I’ll receive it back. And at the end of the day, I can lead the horse to water, I can show you the door, but I can’t make you drink, I can’t make you go through it.

And that’s kind of the concept that a coach should have is like, We can show you all the things and you might not be hiring somebody to get return investment you might in finances, but it is a return on investment is is it helping you set up foundations is it helping you get done is it helping you reorganize your life is helping you like actually like get out of that space to be able to have better productivity or whatever that is but so understanding why you’re hiring them having a really clear picture of what you want returned to.

And then that also will get to this at the end about like helping you make a better choice but that cost is a factor with solo but again this is individualized customized to you and your needs and what you’re needing at that time.

And that’s what it should be. And as far as you know, I do love that you brought that up Amanda about like it’s just you and your coach and you get what you get your don’t throw up it so I will say that it does give

more of an isolation or like a silo defect where especially depending on the coach consultants like network or expertise you might find yourself like kind of siloed and where you In sometimes that can fall on deaf ears right once you’ve been working with somebody for a while Which is interesting because I’ve had I’ve had coaching consulting clients for almost 10 years.

I’ve had a couple Businesses I’ve been working with me and most coach consultants tend to work like a year to three years is max type of thing But I think it also depends on the coach consultant what they can bring and what they do for your company But if that would be another con is almost like the the limited perspective or the isolation aspect however If your coach or consultant I think this is where I kind of like where maybe we struggle with this Amanda because We are constantly learning we are constantly

like pushing ourselves individually, outside of our, we do have a lot of knowledge, but we are constantly networking and finding new things.

So, but I would assume that we are not everybody is like that from our own like data, like I know that not everybody’s like that.

So, but that might happen. And I’ve worked with coaches where I’ve outgrown them very quickly. See, spiritual coaches, business coaches, and a few in between where I’m like, okay, your one, two, three is not working for me anymore.

And that doesn’t mean that they’re not great at what they do.

Amanda Furgiuele  

It’s just I’ve outgrown them. Yeah. mean, different reasons or different seasons. Like there’s all sorts of reasons that you use.

And like you said, some coaches you might have for a really, really long time, others you really only need them for six or nine months or for a specific project.

And it’s not that they weren’t good enough that you would continue with them. It’s that you grow, you’ve outgrown that challenge.

Like you don’t need that particular challenge. coaching, you might need something else. And you know, I think there’s this big misconception around coaching that it’s either like, I have to be coached forever, like a therapist, like, oh, I’m forever gonna have to be with this coach and or conversely that a coach is only there to fix that one problem.

And then there’s nothing else that they do and I move on. Like, I think that they’re a coach can be way more than that.

And there’s more than one coach you might need in your life. It’s not like there’s only one coach that will solve everything in your life.

And you know, speaking of like ROI, I mentioned ROI because I’m a business coach. So obviously, my mind always goes to numbers and business.

But if you have, if you’re getting a coach for something spiritual to deal with trauma, like the result you get is going to be different than a business consultant.

Obviously, you’re hiring a very different reason. And so you have to understand that the return you get on that will most likely not be monetary in those cases.

And there are these still some benchmarks or expectations that you might have set up for yourself. self. And along with those, one thing I will say, like a red flag that I will push out there, I know we’re going to talk about how to choose the right coach.

But one of the red flags that I will always point out to people is that they guarantee X amount of dollars in X amount of days run.

Because unless they’re doing that 100% of the work themselves and are guaranteeing that they won’t stop doing that work until you hit that number.

No, you can’t guarantee that they’ll triple, double quadruple, they can give you the steps that could lead you to that outcome if you do everything and you follow the things.

But if someone’s telling you that they’re going to give you get you to a six figure, seven figure month in three weeks, run very fast and very far.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

You know, it’s interesting when you’re talking about this, one other thing that I want to make can know about.

And I know that us as the coaches or being coached or consultees, so the ones being consulted is we actually do implement and put in the work like when we’re putting our money where our mouth is like, we’re actually doing, and I’m thinking of a company that we’re a marketing company that we’re working with right now.

And you know, if they need something like, they’re like, Oh, next call, we’re like, no, we haven’t done now.

Like, but we’re, we are very quick to act. And I will say that to me, when you have a good coach consultant and you’re not getting necessarily the ROI, there are a couple of factors is one is you’re not putting in the work.

And so a coach or consultant should make that very clear from junk. They’re not here to take it over.

And last year hiring them for that. that’s more like project management consulting-ish type of thing, more or less, but they’re like, they’re 1099, as we’d say in the US.

you know, they’re like a contractor. at that point, but just keep in mind that you have to put in the work unless like Amanda said, they’re doing 100% of the work, but they still can’t.

And I think that that’s a slight disconnect. Or there’s a misalignment or lack of understanding of where you want to go.

So that’s sometimes why it won’t But let’s get into group coaching. So what are some pros that you think when you think of group coaching and Amanda?

Amanda Furgiuele  

Some of the biggest pros are the energy and the access to an instant network of people who are like-minded.

I think that is so invaluable if you really are in a group coaching program with the intention of lifting each other up.

I mean, obviously, I don’t believe in, I’m not a really true believer in competition within businesses because I think there’s a room for us all.

And if you really want to be competitive, just be better and then stop worrying about competing with people. And in a group coaching scenario, you really have this instant network of people who have like problems, like challenge.

have solutions that you haven’t thought of, have ideas. And if you’re really open about what you’re facing, you’re gonna get way more support than you would ever have gotten from your families and friends.

And I just think that that’s so underrated because as entrepreneurs, it’s very lonely. Even when you have a support system, because your staff doesn’t need to hear it, it’s not part of their job description to hear you complain about everything in your business.

Your spouse or significant other is tired of hearing about you complain about this thing that you were gonna create to build you up.

Your friends will never understand, even once you have businesses, if they’re not in the same kind of role or in the same place, they may not really have the bandwidth to discuss it.

With you, nor are your friends instantly supposed to become your clients? And I think a lot of times people start businesses and they’re like, oh, all my friends will be my clients.

And then they get this harsh reality check when they realize that their friends are just their friends and you’re supporting you.

Does it mean? paying you. And I think that’s really difficult for a lot of entrepreneurs. so you’re getting into this space in a group coaching space where everybody has those challenges and you finally get to vent a little bit.

And not only event but find solutions for those issues, find solutions for those challenges. And that is something that is, and you’re networking with people from depending on how wide a span of a group coaching, it could be within the same industry, it could be across the globe.

And there’s just just an infinite network of people they know and resources they have that could benefit you. And that is so incredible to see it when it really works out.

just, the amount of people lighting each other up is fantastic. It’s my favorite thing about a group coaching.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

No, absolutely. I would agree with you that community, and I would say that collective community and a few other aspects of that is also you get diverse perspectives because it’s not siloed, right?

So a lot of times, especially when it’s set up properly. There is like communication of some sort amongst the participants, not just those that are leading the group.

And so you can get other perspectives, also skill observations so you can see what other people are doing. you know, it’s a collectiveness.

So you can borrow this or take this or like, you know, learn from this, have an aha here. And it is help moving the whole forward besides the whole not feeling alone, the support aspect, the light aspect.

But I do love that also too. Sometimes, you know, because there’s so many things that we can talk about.

There’s always a million things that we can be doing. And you know, we might not think to ask that question, but in a group setting, different perspectives and ideas and, know, problems are being brought up.

And that might like trigger something new or might say, oh man, I don’t have that. should probably get that done.

And so I’ve. feel like you get a broader kind of aspect and kind of like overview of what could be happening in your business and then you putting in the work.

The other thing I’ll add to that too is obviously it can be more cost effective. Usually group programs are less expensive than individuals especially with you know new entrepreneurs who want to dip their toe who have not been in coaching or even people who’ve been around a while who need to just watch their budget or just want that community base with the energy you know cost effective it’s definitely more cost effective and more accessible than for that for a broader audience I would say.

Amanda Furgiuele  

Yeah should we talk cons or do you have another pro?

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Sure no no I think so.

Amanda Furgiuele  

All right so the biggest con is for me is that lack of individual attention so if you have of a really intense project that you’re working on that just is highly sensitive or really needs a lot of one-on-one.

You’re not, you might not find that in a group coaching. You might still be able to touch on it.

However, you won’t be able to dedicate 100% of whatever the group coaching is on on your issues because it is a collective.

most of the time when you’re in a group coaching the coaches will answer your issues but also will be addressing the entire group.

So it might not be as 100% personalized to what’s going on with your world and your target market and your demographic as you want it to be.

So I think that can be a challenge also way less accountability. It’s way easier to stand in the back of the room and not participate and just listen to everybody else and not ask questions and be the wallflower when you are in a group coaching scenario because even though you might be called out on things

In the end you don’t have as much accountability because it is a group scenario so you can hide it a bit easier from the powers that be when you’re in that scenario.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Yeah, I would definitely agree I mean I know a lot of coaching programs to the hot seat where you can get a little deeper into a particular problem issue.

Or solution that’s needed depending on how you look at it or what’s going on. But I would definitely say that lack of individualized attention gives more of a broader overview which may be some questions answered here and there and it’s more about moving the whole forward versus the individual.

So really there’s a lot of self-reliance to take what you need and implement what you need versus where the individualized you’re going to have more of like this is what we need.

This is how we’re going to move forward. Only a couple other things that I think maybe kind of coming to play here is there is limited confidentiality.

In group coaching and consulting, like they definitely like try to hold the space as best as possible. And then the last thing I would say is because there aren’t there are difference in goals typically.

So there’s a lot of different directions that are happening. Again, you can look at this as a positive though because it might bring up things that you’re like, man, I never even thought about that or wow, like I like it’s almost into what I call indirect manifestation.

A topic might be being spoken about, but because you’re in the room and because other things are happening, you have this other aha that’s not completely attached to what’s being discussed, but this was kind of like the spark that helped that, right?

So I think, you know, in hindsight, cons can be also looked at as a positive depending on like how you want to spin it in solution.

But I think that that’s pretty much it.

Amanda Furgiuele  

What do you say? The other one that might that has happened to me personally. So I will just say this is what happened to me when I did a group coaching program years ago.

is I work at a very, Lynn and I talk about it all the time, I work at a very fast pace and I was working faster than the group.

so I felt limited because my speed of implementation was so much faster than the group. So in that group dynamic, I wasn’t really allowed to move ahead.

And that’s also specific to the structure of that particular group. We had to move at the same speed and that frustrated me because I was faster.

So I know it’s a very specific group.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

better do, but that’s a great point to, because some are structured now. And I love that it’s almost like the really smart kid who get like, then they get distracted and then their grades drop because they’re like, but also like that reminded me of like, I’ve been a part of many group, especially during COVID.

because everything’s on like so many things are online now, especially the group programs, is a lot of times they don’t offer the flexibility of the, that obviously a solo.

And so the timings might not be being living in an Asian country right now and different things like that.

And then I would feel like I get behind even though I’m following the homework and doing the stuff. I would get frustrated that they’re not offering it at like a collective time that would be good.

So it’s also I think that that goes into like finding what program is good for you. So let’s get into like how to choose either solo or group.

How to choose a program because we bet obviously we are coaches and consultants we believe in it. And there are fin times I think the most I’ve had at one time were five different kind of coach consultant mentor therapist.

But like I group them all into one and they were helping me with different aspects of my life. Yeah.

So you can obviously have multiple but and that doesn’t include the networking group. So I’ve longed it. Anyway, how do we how do

How people pick? How do people choose?

Amanda Furgiuele  

I think the number one thing you need to identify is what do you want to get out of it?

Like what kind of coach consultant are you looking for? Because if you think you need someone to help you with your mindset, but it really turns out that you just don’t have any sales processes or anything, what is the actual root of what you’re working on?

Is it a combination of things where you need someone who has more skill sets than one? Or is it a very hyper-focus?

Like I only need help on building a sales funnel and click up. That’s a very specific coach who could teach you that very specific thing.

And there are coaches that teach just that one thing, or I just need help on Facebook ads. And there are coaches that just help on Facebook ads.

So if you need something hyper-focused, or you need something that’s more broad. So like for example, I think Lynn and I for example are very broad that we can cover a lot of topics in the same coaching session.

We might like I might hit more finances than Lynn does and she might hit more compassion and like people and building networks.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Reactive means you just need somebody to help you climb out of the ship that you’re in at that time like help me right now But if you’re very solution oriented and forward thinking Um, then you want to look for proactive coach somebody who’s going to take you and so pull like pull you along into the vision You might still need to like deal with what’s happening in that day but you you want somebody who can take you forward and Neither one is bad It’s just a lot of people don’t understand that there’s the two and so a lot of times what I found is coaches get siloed in the the consult Coaches get siloed into reactive and there’s not as much growth Um in everything because they’re they’re putting out fires all the time versus figuring out how to fix that and grow Um, but I would say also it needs to be an interview process.

It needs to be the right fit for both including the coach consultant They’re playing anytime. So I I am not your I’m not your fit.

Um, but I will say whoever listening to this, like be mindful if you’re the coach, like to say you’re not my right fit, or if you are the person looking to hire a coach or consultant, or get into a group program that this isn’t the right fit for me.

But there should be some interviewing process, like, are they going to push you out of your comfort zone? Are they going to be your yes person?

are they because there’s, you can have a cheerleader, but you want somebody who’s actually going to push you out of where you’re at?

Yeah, and are they in alignment with where I want to go? Like, I feel like coach consultants, there needs to be some, at least a little bit of an alignment with the values, the core values, because otherwise you’re constantly going to have conflict.

Yeah, and you have to kind of like each other, like you have to kind of like each other, because if it’s just like raw, even though I know I might be able to help people, like if it’s going to be completely resistant the whole time, because our

our energies, our attitudes, our personalities clash the whole time. I’m not going to exhaust myself as a coach consultant to cater to that.

Amanda Furgiuele  

And so I shouldn’t take that client. Yeah, it reminds me of a, an accountant that I used to work with.

So I was a coach for an accountant. she had an accountant accounting business and she used to say, like, we worked a lot because she wanted to take everybody.

Her big thing is like, I just want to, I want to, it’s taxes. Like I just, I’ll take anybody’s taxes.

However, she got to these some of these clients who are like, I don’t care if it’s legal or not.

I just want to not pay taxes. And she, for obvious reasons, was very uncomfortable with that concept. I’m like, you have to fire this client.

You can’t give the client what they want, nor that legally a good choice to give the client what they want.

You have to cut that client loose. And it was a hard one for her to get into. But then once she made that step that she was only going to go on the very most up and up, I’m only going to do what’s legally allowed.

It changed the dynamic of her clients and she got way better. more aligned clients because she understood that it wasn’t the right for both of them.

it’s a little bit off of the coaching. However, it’s the same concept of if it’s not going to be the right fit, it’s not the right fit for both of you.

And it wasn’t the right fit for that person either. That dude really wanted to not pay taxes. And so he needed to find somebody who was a little sleazier.

More power to you, dude. I don’t like taxes either. So it just wasn’t a right fit for either one.

He wasn’t going to get the results he wanted and she was going to feel gross if she did what he wanted.

So it was best that they made that decision. So same thing with coaching. If it’s not the right fit, it’s not the right fit.

And I’ve absolutely turned people down or given them better, different solutions. I mean, it’s normally you’re not the right fit for me, but I don’t think I can do what you need me to do.

But I have this other set of coaches that actually might be right on the things. I just had a meeting with a client recently.

was a multi-million dollar business that I wanted so badly to be the right fit for them. However, the problem they had was though something I can do, I wasn’t a specialist in that.

And so I’m like, you know what, this other coach that I know is a special. specialist and that she’d be a better fit and they ended up hiring her.

And so although it hurt my little soul to turn down that multi-million dollar contract. I wasn’t the right fit.

I wasn’t the right choice. But you know, down the line, if that person comes back and is like, I need help with this now, they’re going to think about me because they’re like, she didn’t try to take my money just to take my money.

And that’s what you want to, that’s the good happy feeling you want to have when you leave it when you say, notice somebody, you want to give them some choices to make it better because ultimately it’s about serving.

And if you can’t be the one to serve, it’s no good for either of you. just a money transaction.

That’s yucky even for somebody who likes money.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

like it. Yeah. I think those are all good points for now. So, yeah, I think we can go on and on.

I think every topic we talk most, every topic we talk about, we can go on and on and about.

I mean, this is what makes us who we are. We are, we definitely have a lot of experience and a lot of knowledge and we’re constantly learning and experiencing.

And so, If you like this podcast, go ahead and like it and share it with somebody because we all need coaches and consultants in our life like business, personal, whatnot.

Like I said, like, I think the most I’ve had is five at once. Right now I have two ish kind of more, but I’ll consider to.

But at the end of the day, we all we need that. And if we want growth, we have to have somebody who’s helping hold us accountable or giving ourselves the right environment to So share this with people in your network to help them kind of navigate if group or solo coaching is good for the best for them and how to navigate actually interviewing the right fit.

Amanda Furgiuele  

And of course, shameless plug. If we are your people and you want a coach, Lynn and I are always available to talk and do a consult for you.

And we also have a group coaching program called the badass amplifier. Check it out badass amplifier.com. And if you’re into either of those.

What was going on with us more? We’re here. We’re ready.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Let’s talk. So it is not, though, for the week, nor for those that like to send victim mode and not do anything.

So we’re just throwing out there. We are very clear on who is not our target audience. And we wish you all the best if that is what you do.

We’re not throwing chain. That’s on you. But we wouldn’t be the right bit, for sure. Anywho.

Amanda Furgiuele  

All right, folks, get up Yeah, get after it.