Episode 79: Authenticity, Hustle, and Heart with Marques Ogden

In this episode of The Pursuit of Badasserie: The Podcast, we sit down with Marques Odgen, a former NFL player who has transitioned into an inspirational speaker, author, and entrepreneur. As the founder and CEO of Ogden Ventures LLC, Marques specializes in keynote speaking, business coaching, and consulting. With three best-selling books under his belt and his own podcast, “Get Authentic with Marques Ogden,” Marques is dedicated to helping others understand how authenticity can lead to victory in both personal and professional life.

During our conversation, Marques opens up about his journey, including hitting rock bottom, battling addiction, and navigating the aftermath of a divorce. Despite losing everything and starting over with little to his name, Marques emphasizes the importance of perseverance and taking ownership of one’s actions.

Throughout the podcast, Marques shares valuable insights on the significance of authenticity in leadership and personal growth. He stresses the need to embrace change, adapt to challenges, and cultivate a supportive network. Marques also discusses the concept of hustle, urging listeners to redefine their approach to success by focusing on their goals, maintaining a positive mindset, and taking consistent action.

Join us on a journey of authenticity, hustle, and triumph as Marques inspires us to embrace our unique paths and strive for greatness. Let’s get after it!


In this episode, we discuss:

  • Marques Ogden’s journey from NFL player to entrepreneur and motivational speaker
  • Experience playing football at Harvard University and in the NFL
  • Transitioning into the construction business and building a successful company
  • Facing bankruptcy, addiction, and personal struggles
  • Hitting rock bottom and starting over with little to his name
  • Embracing change, adapting to challenges, and surrounding oneself with support
  • The power of perseverance and taking ownership of one’s actions
  • Importance of authenticity in leadership and personal growth
  • Redefining success and embracing the concept of hustle
  • Practical advice on goal-setting, maintaining a positive mindset, and taking consistent action
  • Small daily actions and mindset shifts required to overcome adversity
  • Staying true to oneself amidst life’s challenges and changes
  • The transformative power of resilience, authenticity, and unwavering determination

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Ogden Ventures LLC




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Marques Ogden Podcast

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Hey, I’m Lynn.

Amanda Furgiuele  

And I’m Amanda. Welcome to the Pursuit of Badasserie: the podcast.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

We as always have an incredible guest today. Lynn, tell us all about them. Yes. I feel Marcus for a few years now, but this is Marcus.

who is a former NFL player turned inspirational speaker, author and entrepreneur. He’s quite the hustler, which we really enjoy, but he’s the founder and CEO of Ogden Ventures LLC, a media and entertainment company that specializes in keynote speaking, business coaching and consulting.

Ogden is a three-time best-selling author in the host of the podcast, Get Authentic with Marcus Ogden. In his speaking engagements, Marcus leads his audience to understand why authenticity creates victory by sharing his personal story of overcoming diversity and achieving success.

Marcus is on a mission to inspire CEOs and other senior leaders to maximize their potential and reach their personal and professional goals, and I am really excited to have him on.

He was actually one of years ago, so welcome, Marcus.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

It’s funny. Yeah, well, that was wow. I can’t remember how long that was, but I do remember being a podcaster.

Guess on your show, you had way, way, back.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Way, way, way back. Well, welcome. Your story is fascinating. So I just love for you to start with a brief, just kind of story of how you got to where you are.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

So from Washington DC, I went to Harvard University in Washington DC, played football for the bison. I ended up going from Harvard University National Football League for I played for almost six years and a great career got into construction after I got out of football.

I struggled for about six months after got out with some alcohol issue, addiction, gambling, nightlife, women’s partying issues. you know, you just don’t really know the hell to do with yourself after you’re done playing.

So then I got into construction, built this massively successful eight-figure business. I mean, I was king of Baltimore. Things were going for

Nominal but unfortunately my ego and my ad you caught up with me and I’m going banked up in 2013 I moved to Raleigh where I’m currently I’m actually outside of Raleigh.

I’m a little town called Fuqua, Marina I ended up moving here 2013 April with about four and alls to my name Credit gone most family friends gone.

No nothing just kind of Rock bottom kind of start over and unfortunately, I didn’t really know what’s at rock bottom when I got here I still thought I was very about to stop with my and like go this and that that this and then I end up You know getting fired from two jobs in the same week.

I was at Maryland for short time I got fired for about two months all my fault got to construction again got fired by that company five days later So that’s good job of custodian working in downtown Raleigh for eight dollars and twenty five cents an hour That’s what one of our keynotes is titled the ego mistake from eight figures to eight twenty five per hour and after that I ended up

finally hitting rock bottom when somebody’s trash and rotten meat and I call it my spoiled milk moment happened and I realized at that time that I wasn’t responsible or accountable and I wasn’t taking any ownership of what I did wrong I was always trying to pass the buck or it was that person it was my business partner it was my employees it was the contractor to developer blah blah so finally I hit that moment and then I said okay what can I do and I tell my clients all the time when you’re at rock bottom trying to figure out what to do next try to build something of what you do well so that’s what I said well this makes sense so I got into construction this is right I got into speaking excuse me telling my story of construction failure when I dog through all that and then that started to do okay for a bunch of free job and then get anything paid at all for the first two and a half years finally figured out what was missing I published

my first book became my best selling author got high for my first job April 2016, did that, crushed it, got better and better and finally learned the business and then in 2018 did some other things and from there had a lot of success a lot of you know in that regard but then I hit another snag well I guess you would call a snag.

When I got divorced in 2022 July I filed for divorce from my ex and I had to move into a two-bedroom apartment and I was feeling really down and really blue and like just wasn’t feeling like a badass at all and I finally said okay I’m going to get myself together.

I’ve done this before to give half my assets to go all the debt pretty much all the stuff and for about two and a half months I was really down and like just not wanting to do anything not really want to go anywhere and then I finally got myself together January of 2023.

Warm tar and I bought my dream haul I guess was like four months later that was May of 2020.

  1. And fast forward now business is doing phenomenal. I’ve been in my house 11 months this month, one year anniversary being in my house this next month.

I’ve really worked hard. I’m now the best quote unquote where I feel. I’m helping a lot of people. I’m turning my life from, you know, the struggles and all this other stuff to like helping others and trying and getting people out of their own way.

And so now I speak all over internationally, nationally, you know, I’m a three time best selling, actually four, one is just a book that I’m just a co-author of.

And then, you know, podcasting and speaking and coaching and consulting, you name it. But I’m the same guy that went through bankruptcy for it all, something on the same guy that got divorced, I mean, literally what, 18 months ago, you know, they were taken, had to start over again and had to, you know, all these things.

I’ve constantly been, you know, up, down, all around here, doing well, boom, had to start over over. I’ve done that so many times in my life that now where I’m at, I’ve learned how to always persevere through it.

And so that’s where I’m at today.

Amanda Furgiuele  

I love that. You know, I feel like it would be so easy to make your story. NFL player becomes successful business owner, you know, and just skip all of the trouble that happened there.

I think a lot of people just forget to look at the things that make you who you are because it’s not fun to look at and it’s not comfortable.

And they just want to see the successes. But that is a tumultuous, intense journey that you had to go on to be where you are today.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

Absolutely. And, you know, unfortunately, social media, a lot of people only put out the good, the exciting, the, you know, I bought a new house, made that really be theirs.

I’m driving this car and I just be raking for the look. Or I’m actually no one guy said, Hey, Marcus, you know, I’m about to fly up to New York.

I’m gonna actually just like, I know a guy who has a private jet and some, some Lamborghini, I’m gonna do like a little fake video.

I’m gonna do a video shoot at my cars and I’m flying here. like, are you doing it? Oh, know, people don’t think if you’re successful and if it’s that the other, they’re gonna, you know, to work with you.

I’m like, well, maybe within you’re not being authentic. That’s not your home. That’s not your stuff. That’s not who you are.

So, you know, it’s like, why are you doing that? I feel a lot of people just want to skip the step of hard work.

They want to skip the step of failing. They want to skip the step of having to get up off the campus and get back in the ring and try again.

And I’m not gonna do that. I’m not gonna tell you like, oh, I bought this great house, you know, after five with the boys.

Well, no, there was, there was two and a half months of hell and there was a seven and half more period total living in a two-bedroom apartment that I constantly was literally

having nightmares all the time I was there because I didn’t want to be there, right? mean, I constantly, I’m, it’s gonna be real, I constantly was like finding ways to go out, date women.

I knew I wasn’t gonna do anything with it, just to get out of the house and drink because I just didn’t want to be in the house, the apartment, like this.

I didn’t want to be around it, you know? I mean, I had fair that new year. remember doing things with her and it’s been like, wow, fairs sitting at this small table that I don’t own, like I’m renting furniture in a really crappy two-bedroom apartment and fairs doing Christmas cookies and all this.

And she feels excited and I didn’t even have a tree in 2022 December. No decor, like, fair had a few decorations, but I ended up going back to my dining room, but I had no tree in 2022 December.

getting sucked in the reverse 2022. so December 2023, when I moved to my house, it got better. have a tree and we have decorations and we’re going to start, know, every we’re going to do more and do all these things.

But you know, I’m finally now, you know, to get in date good people that should have a chance to actually be with not just like doing it because of me.

I’m like, I don’t want to be home, right? So my point is, is that if you’re struggling, it’s okay.

Everybody who has really doesn’t think I believe has struggled some time along the way. And don’t struggle. My opinion, of course, you’re not good ready for success when it comes your way.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Well, definitely we agree with that one. It’s been a self-fulfilling prophecy in some aspects, which is a whole other, a whole other story around that.

I do want you to share with the audience. What are some things that helped you along this way? Hey, I mean, I know you’re spoiled milk moment and also like going through the divorce and with Farah and seeing those moments, especially when we have kids, like I was that person too.

When I looked at my kids and I was like, I have to do, I’m going to do better for them at my lows or whatever it was I was navigating.

What are some things that you did that you may be a mindset shift or some actions that you said?

These are kind of core things to help pull you out of kind of those moments where you’re like, ah, I got to make a change.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

So I took it all the time. There’s four V to lead to the fifth V of victory. So there’s visualize.

So once I got out of my own way in January 2023, I start to think about, well, what did I want for a place?

Like I knew I wanted a house, I didn’t know what it looked like. didn’t know what it was going to be like.

I didn’t. I didn’t even know where. And I remember my realtor who I love to death, Lee Hamill. When I told her, when I called her to tell how it good, I was leaving media at the first mediation, that I need to have an apartment to move into.

Within two weeks, that was fully burned to your bedroom. And she said, Marcus, we’re going to get you into something where you’re probably not going to like it that much, but just stick to the plan and stick with me.

And I’ll help you find and visualize the how she won. And when she showed me my house, it was perfect.

I mean, 31 square foot, so it’s over 3,000 square foot house. It had two floors. It had five bedrooms, had a law, an office.

I’m like, huge kitchen, fair can have her own stuff. I’m like, wow. And then I found her, I put money down, and I had to visualize what I need to do to finish it, to take care of death, move in all these things.

So visualization is when you put your mind where your body is really not there yet. But eventually you do it well.

Enough long enough hard enough in your Bible catch up to where you want to be. So that’s number one two is vocalize I tell people if you’re not gonna talk good about yourself You’d be your own champion your own cheerleader while anybody else Right and I spoke with that for a two and a half months I’m not gonna lie then when I made the decision in general look I gotta stop saying it was your fault Bad markets, you know, I can’t feel like a failure my dad got to force and now here I am going through this and I had to move out and all this stuff I’m like why me and then I say, know what enough.

I said if you are smart enough. You are good enough You do deserve happiness. need to get out of your own way.

So I started speaking good to myself Better things started to happen and then I bow into every single day I either did a podcast made a sales call close to client shot an email Did my own podcast wherever the case may be something positive and I call it

asking a vote towards what I wanted in life. And then the fourth is vicinity. I realized now in my marriage, I was hanging around really toxic people that I was trying to do what I thought my ex wanted me to do to be with her and what I thought she needed me be.

And those, some of those people, a lot of people, actually, it’s funny, they’re not even friends anymore because they also got tired of her stuff and everything else.

you know, they’re not friends anymore. So, the vicinity is choosing who to be around, elevating your circle, going around bad people, bad things happen.

So, I visualize what I wanted. I vocalize, I was good enough. voted every day, I could do and be better.

I changed the vicinity of who I was hanging around. I was able to get out of that apartment after seven and a half months of hell, moving to a house, when I left the marriage.

I had nothing. I had to start completely over, refrigerator, couches, beds. mean, I didn’t own anything. So, if you’re listening to this, I went from that to where I’m at now to my homeless, fully first woman, not fully, than 80%.

I got something to buy here and there. But I love where I’m at. I like what I’m doing. I’m in the right neighborhood.

Sarah loves it. And, you know, I love being able to give her a place that has windows and light.

And it may seem silly to people, but those little things are what drive us to continue do more, like you said, right, Land?

So, if you’re listening and you’re struggling, like I was, visualize, localized, low vicinity, capture those four, then victory can be yours, no matter who you are or where you are in your life.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Yeah, I love that. I love the V’s. the voting in it, Amanda and I talked about this a lot, but…

And you, you said it without saying it, you were doing one step, like some days, it was just one step, one step, that direction.

A lot of times people feel like it has to be in these leaps and bounds, and it really is, especially when you were in those moments of can barely, like, keep a breath that one step can make all the difference and they add up over time and it’s just so important.

I also love, I know you want to say something, I love because I follow you on social media. love the post when you got fair or her bed and just like how beautiful that was and what an accomplishment and how you posted other things.

But like to me, that was such like a proud moment for you.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

I know how close you are with your And it’s just that one step forward daily. The reason a lot of people.

don’t do well in life, right? There’s three things you need to do. Focus, lock in and attack. The reason a lot of people don’t do well in life is they focus on too many things, and then they end up focusing on nothing, and then they end up not moving anywhere because they’re like, want to do this, I want to do that, I want to do this, I want to do that.

then you’re like, well, then you get frustrated, then you get upset, then you get downtrodden, and then what happens, nothing happens.

So if you’re listening, if you’re struggling, if you’re not struggling, but if you’re definitely a struggle, focus on just one thing, right?

Focus on just something to move the needle forward, right? Like say, every day, it was either, it wasn’t all, it was either a phone call, an email, a sales call, closing the sale, going on a pocket.

Now, if I did more, great, but every day I need to do something towards getting the F out of this rope.

putting down Freddy Cougar at Jason Slash apartment that I’m in and getting my life back to I’m sitting here in my dining room tennis where I shoot on my podcast.

There’s eight windows on the first floor and it’s a huge skylight coming down to my face to my first floor.

In the apartment there was two windows told. Two. I can look outside and see a huge backyard, up to the main road and I looked at my apartment.

There was a sliding glass door and that back up outside was just it was like the trash dump. That’s what it was and a busted town late that looked like I don’t know like sliming from the Ghostbusters was living there like it was just green and just nasty but that was my reality.

And to get out of that I said do something positive every day and then from there things started to happen.

Amanda Furgiuele  

I love so much about this journey because all of your stuff. Everything you’re talking about is so attainable. mean, talking better about yourself, but like putting yourself in the room with people who can push you forward, who aren’t going to hold you back, who aren’t going to facilitate the negatives in your life.

doing those small things every day, that really is all those tiny things together, lead to huge changes if you let them.

And if you make those movements in the right direction, towards progress, towards your goals, it’s incredible what just little things can add up and how that can make such a huge difference.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

It’s everything. The small, one of my clients said this, and actually that’s one of my good brands. He, we were in a support group together.

And I agree with him 100%. If you’re going to try to be successful in life, be excited about the mundane things, right?

You’re not going to have, for example, have a huge payment coming to mall from a client. I’m so excited about it.

I’m more excited about the client and the money. I I can make money, but having the right. science is awesome, right?

But again, you know, the things I had to do to get there, shoot podcasts, have my own podcast, do a bunch of free work to get here, coach, You know, I mean, that’s how I got to that relationship.

When I did a podcast, I can trace about probably over $4 million of business in the last probably five years to a podcast I did in 2018.

And some don’t want to do a podcast. Oh, I’m tired. Well, you know what, man, I’ve been working since seven o’clock this morning, right?

Actually, six o’clock this morning, getting up better than it was just six a.m. I don’t fish till eight p.m.

that probably eight 30 14 and half hour day. Do I complain? No, my hair is podcast loving it? Yes, because you never know who’s listening, right?

say, Oh, well, you know, is that going to leave me to my next client? I can’t tell you that.

I can tell you if you don’t do it, nobody’s going to hear you, they’re not going to do know you and they don’t know if they don’t trust you.

That’s it. One of my business parts will do a lot of huge things right now where executive leadership masterminds, working with the world, now Les Brown.

This guy’s been following me on LinkedIn for almost two and a half years. When I put my podcast out, really, this is at least two episodes a day.

Now he has a podcast and now he’s crushing and we’re working together, but I tell everybody, if I didn’t do podcast, if I didn’t post on social media, if didn’t do all the Monday things to get to getting paid $20,000 here or $50,000 there, right?

What’s the good? how do I get there? Every and I can’t go to what you said, right, man, it, don’t skip the steps.

Don’t skip them. It’s not going to, not just because oh, well, gee, I saw one post of yours. I want to pay you 50 grand of speed.

They’re like, no, I’m not going to do that. you know, people just want it here and now, and it

again, like you said, right? Just do the small things, you know, the small things become the big things.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Yeah, the journey is made in everyday steps, not in the leaps and bounds. And I love everything that you said.

It’s interesting because an amendment I’ve had this conversation many times, we’re all from the same generation. And I’m not going to throw shade at necessarily generational differences, but in the time we are today, it’s not just generations, because I have mid 20 year olds, and they’re not necessarily this, but we’re in an environment where you know, they watch something around like that the hustle, the word hustle is a bad word, right?

that whole context that comes around it. And all I can think about is like, you know, again, Amanda and I talk about this all the time about the hustle is real.

And like to me, you were, you were the epitome of hustle and not in a way that you’re on this hamster wheel, in a way of like, yes, you’ve had to reinvent yourself, but you were putting in the grind and hustling to make sure that you are creating a life you want, that you deserve, that your daughter deserves.

And I’d love for you to give a few nuggets around hustle, because it is, I mean, there’s people in all the generations right now, I think, because of instant gratification, everything that you were saying earlier about like, people are only posting the good stuff, they’re not posting necessarily the true journey.

What would you say to those that might say, well, I don’t want to work the 14 hours or I don’t, I don’t, you know, I don’t want to do the hustle or the hustle is a bad word.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

What would you say to them? So I’ll say, okay, if you don’t want to do the hustle, that’s okay, then be okay with whatever life throws at you.

Fine, if you don’t want to hustle, don’t want to But if you don’t want to do the extra, then don’t expect life to give you extra, right?

I think that I had this woman on my podcast, Natalia, Tony Benney, who’s really successful and comes like buying an and she helps people like, you know, diversification and we would check all the up interview around this at the same thing.

I think it’s about 75% of people who make over $4 million in paycheck to paycheck. Then you have about 80% of America who doesn’t have $1,000 in their bank account if an emergency was to arise.

And so if you don’t want to hustle, if you don’t want to grind, you know, unless you go up with a lot of, if you do, God bless you and again, that’s what I’m going to do, bro, because why?

didn’t really know how to manage it, they didn’t earn it and they’re like, oh, I’m just going to spend this, spend this.

And then I told one guy, he brought a $40 million house, might do, you want $200 million, that’s great.

He brought $40 million to the house. So right there, you’ve already gone about close to what,% of your, that, in your house, like really?

If that’s you should be doing, the point is, is that if you’re not going to hustle and you’re not going to grind, then, you know, don’t complain where you don’t have what you don’t want, right?

Don’t complain when you are in debt. Don’t complain when you don’t have money to buy extra. Don’t complain. You don’t have money to go out and get what you want or get what you need because you haven’t done what you need to do.

And hustle and grind, it is not a bad word. is honestly to me, if you’re not going to hustle, not going to grind, then again, don’t expect anything great.

And again, you don’t have to grind, you don’t have to grind like doing the same thing every day expecting different results.

I’m not saying that, right? But you should be working towards something that is causing you fulfillment or giving you a higher power of serenity because you know you want to do it.

So, me doing this podcast, awesome. Jump off here. I’m on the patches. I’m helping with my health and wellness.

have a call to the team for half an hour, right? I’m a part of a company called Grind Oral Care.

We’re in 555 Wal-Mart across the country. I was the first person that my partner Roger brought on back in 2018 when he was just online.

And our brand is called Grind Oral Care. And now we’re in Wal-Mart. Now we’re, we brought on all these different people.

We’ve been on national TV. We’ve been on news, all this stuff, right? And so I have a call up that been 8.30, I’m done, bad.

up to mall 445. I gotta go be the broadest in the basketball court. Grind for my help. Get things moving, right?

Don’t sit around, right? I did a talk for a client, thousand miles of travel. And it was about three things that we were focusing on.

Evolution, movement, and being dynamic. And that applies to light. should want to grind and hustle and be an evolution and be innovative and create more.

You should be moving. moving with positive energy and not sitting around doing crap and then be dynamic. It takes the same energy to be average.

So why not be great?

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Oh, I love that. My social media photos.

Amanda Furgiuele  

Yeah, I think we’re both going to be using that as like one of the day there.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

And it’s it takes the same energy, right? It takes the same energy to to dream big or to dream small.

So why not dream big? It takes the same energy to be average or be dynamic. Why not be dynamic, right?

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Absolutely. You talk a lot about authenticity. And I know we’re coming to an institute, but I definitely want you to because we didn’t bring that up at all on this podcast.

And we know it’s a bastardized word, but I’d love to hear your your definition of authenticity.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

It is You are in the moment knowing that the moment is going to change. I’m not the same person I was when I was a married man to a woman.

You know, I was trying to do everything I could to make her happy. I tell her, I tell her stay like, you know, don’t, we don’t get along, but we don’t, we’re not enemies from that look, she’ll ask me for help.

You’re not responsibility anymore, right? responsibility is to Fera and to my stepdaughter, Ava. right? That’s more responsibility lies. If I can help you here or there, well, I maybe but don’t count on it because I’m not the same person.

I’m not the same person as I was in the apartment. I’m not. You’re trying to do something. You’re trying to get something over on me.

You had a better chance than you do now because now I’m in my zone in my game. I love my life when I’m doing so I’m much more alert.

I’m much more aware. So authentic is being who you are and this is something. When we interviewed somebody who got who was, I love this quote they said, being your all his name is Dan Karen, that’s it.

So Dan Karen, I agree with him saying being your authentic self is the coolest person you can be. So so many people try to be other people, you know, don’t, you know, I don’t want to be, you know, I love, I can’t wait to meet Les Brown.

I can’t wait to work beside Les Brown, but I don’t want to be Les Brown. I’m not Les, right?

I’m not Tony Roberts. I’m not these guys. I’m me, right? And so authenticity is knowing that you’re going to change, you’re going to evolve, you’re going to grow, you’re going to take a step back, going to take five steps forward, you’re going take step to the right, step to the left, and realizing that no matter who you are and where you are, that you are going to be you, you are good enough, but realizing that you’re going to change as where you are in light changes.

Amanda Furgiuele  

I’m going going going going going I absolutely love that. That’s one of my, I think that might be one of my favorite definitions of authenticity because I think there is such a call for it right now and nobody really knows.

This is a generalization but we’re so inundated with what we should be by everybody else that nobody really knows who they are anymore.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

It’s like we just forgotten who we are. Yeah, because where social media has created this sense of immediate gratification, quick results, and getting what you want.

And no, I mean, do I have a lovely home now? Yes. Do I make very good money now? Absolutely.

Was I in a great home? Was that 12 months ago, 13 months ago? Nope. Two years ago was I am where I am now mentally, not a chance, right?

I have to go through hell to get here? You betcha. But so many people are just trying to see or trying to make their lives be so perfect.

I’m like That’s not real. That’s not that’s not authentic because your life is not perfect. That’s a perfect life.

I’m not your guy because I’m not your guy. You must have been through the hardships and had to rebound and been through has heart broken had to starting over.

You want that guy? Now we’re talking, right? But so many people are just so want to be what they feel everybody wants it to be that they lose who they are facts.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

All right, we’re we are at time. I know we can talk to you forever, Marcus.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

Any last little nuggets you’d like to share? I’m sure you know what? I’m gonna go with this quote. It’s one of my favorites.

It’s spot and I thought it was my quote and I found that he said it first and since he was the 19th president of the United States.

As for a half of the years I had me maybe 200 years ahead of me. I can’t say that I said it first because that’s not realistic.

It’s not authentic. Rutherford B. Hayes, our 19th president of United as this. Every expert was once a beginner. If you want to be great, you want to be a badass, you want to master a badassery and be like this podcast.

Understand everybody has a first day. Living in a man can start with his awesome podcast like, Hey, we are first day.

No, my first speech for a fortune firm of the company sucked. I got feedback that told me to but without it, I wouldn’t be where I’m at today with over 55 fortune power declines.

So if you’re listening, everybody has a first day. And if you’re not going to accept that and work through it and keep trying to, you know, it’s interesting, right?

know, so I’m done, we’re real. So I’m back dating now, right? These dating acts make it where one bad thing with somebody.

don’t like one thing you change to somebody else. You change, you change, you change. Well, problem is, you know,

for the first couple of months or whatever, it’s going to be awesome. Right? mean, we’ll look like you hope to say like the hope so anyway, but at some point when the S hits the band, right, you can’t swipe right, you can’t swipe left, and you can’t change, I can change draws.

Then what? is where we got to learn that every day is not going to be a great day. And that’s okay, right?

tell people on day night, look, just don’t be crazy. You have an issue drama, I can work with that.

But don’t bring me crazy, right? Don’t bring me that. Bring me like, you know, I had a bad day.

Hey, I understand. got you. We can work through that, right? But so many people just want to change you to your channel, the grass is green, the grass is green, not the same, but it’s just in light.

Matter of fact, not the case at all. If you don’t stick with it, you’ll never become, as Robert B.

Hayes said, expert in it. So again, every expert was once a beginner. Don’t quit something. And don’t look to jump ship.

Don’t put the grasses greener mentality in light. If you something you like or find something you like or the piss may be, don’t throw it.

Stick it out. Work towards being that expert in a relationship, in your business, in life. Just come quick. And that, my friends, is gonna get you to where you wanna be.

We’ve actually been like you have Amanda and Lynn with this awesome podcast or me speaking or other things you wanna do, because you went through the S to get to the other side.

I you about our time. Dorothy and Tua had to go through a twister to get to much skinland where it was bright, sunny, brick row.

If they went through the graph, go to Bantoto, get to much skinland. So can you.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Doing this, that’s right.

Amanda Furgiuele  

For sure. this has been fantastic. Thank you so much for joining us.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

How can people get ahold of you? And go to our app. We have to. Marcus Ogden app, this type that go to any app or Android phone, go to your app or type in M-A-R-Q-U-E-S-O-G-D-N, and the app will pop right up.

And you can also go to our 360 link, www.Markus, M-A-R-Q-U-S-360.com. Check us out there. Our app, you can connect those on our website, our podcast.

We have free exclusive content on there. It’s all about this inspirational material. So reach out to us, connect us or send an email, markus at markuslogden.com.

Amanda Furgiuele  

Thank you so, so much for joining us. And of course, all that information will be in the show notes for you to click on directly so you don’t have to wreck your car to try to roll that down.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Absolutely. Thanks so much, Marcus, for being on. If you enjoyed this podcast, please hit subscribe, follow Marcus on all of the platforms and

and leave a message. Also share it with your community to get some bit of inspiration and a good swift kick in the butt, which we always enjoy.

Marques Ogden (Marques Ogden)

So thanks again, Marcus. Always, ladies.

Lynn Howard (Lynn Howard)

Until next time.

Amanda Furgiuele  

Get after it.